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More Eric Meyer on CSS (Voices That Matter)

   by Eric A. Meyer

    New Riders Press
    08 April, 2004


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Editorial description(s):
Web designers loved
, which proved that a book could be both technically competent (it explained Cascading Style Sheets clearly) and aesthetically astute (printed in color, the book showed off Meyer's work brilliantly). More Eric Meyer on CSS picks up where the original book ended, going into detail on a score of important Web-design tasks. As he did with his first book, Meyer has had this one laid out in a broad-page format, with many illustrations, and printed in full color. The net effect is that readers see the design effects of the CSS tweaks under discussion, and there's no way to imagine (or load code) to see how colors and shadings look when rendered in a browser.

Appealingly, this book is oriented around typical design projects (such as annual financial reports, weblogs, and personal homepages) and widely used design features (including menus and index tabs). This structure ensures the utility of Meyer's book--you can just turn to the chapter that deals with whatever you're trying to build, and see what the author did in a similar situation. Each section involves far more prose than code; Meyer is very careful to spend more time explaining what he's doing than he spends actually doing it, and the reader is never overwhelmed by giant CSS listings. Numerous screen shots intersperse the code and commentary, allowing you to see the intermediate results of style sheets in progress and adapt Meyer's beginnings in order to achieve different ends. --David Wall

Topics covered: How to use Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) to design professional-looking documents for online publication. Aspects of CSS that affect position, color, typeface, and other design elements are covered, as are the special considerations that relate to navigation tabs and images. A number of case studies (including a look at the author's contribution to the Zen Garden design project) make ideas clear.

About the Author

Eric A. Meyer has been working with the Web since late 1993 and is an internationally recognized expert on the subjects of HTML, CSS, and Web standards. A widely read author, he is also the founder of Complex Spiral Consulting (, which focuses on helping clients save money and increase efficiency through the use of standards-oriented Web design techniques and counts Macromedia and Wells Fargo Bank among its clients.

Beginning in early 1994, Eric was the visual designer and campus Web coordinator for Case Western Reserve University Web site, where he also authored a widely acclaimed series of three HTML tutorials and was project coordinator for the online version of the Encyclopedia of Cleveland History combined with the Dictionary of Cleveland Biography (, the first example of an encyclopedia of urban history being fully and freely published on the Web.

Author of Eric Meyer on CSS: Mastering the Language of Web Design (New Riders), Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide (O'Reilly & Associates), and CSS2.0 Programmer's Reference (Osborne/McGraw-Hill), as well as numerous articles for the O'Reilly Network, Web Techniques, and Web Review, Eric also created the CSS Browser Compatibility Charts and coordinated the authoring and creation of the W3C's official CSS Test Suite. He has lectured to a wide variety of organizations, including Los Alamos National Laboratory, the New York Public Library, Cornell University, and the University of Northern Iowa. Eric has also delivered addresses and technical presentations at numerous conferences, among them the IW3C2 WWW series, Web Design World, CMP, SXSW, the User Interface conference series, and The Other Dreamweaver Conference.

In his personal time, Eric acts as List Chaperone of the highly active css-discuss mailing list (, which he co-founded with John Allsopp of Western Civilisation and is now supported by Eric lives in Cleveland, Ohio, which is a much nicer city than you've been led to believe, and is the host of "Your Father's Oldsmobile," a Big Band-era radio show heard weekly on WRUW 91.1-FM in Cleveland ( When not otherwise busy, he is usually bothering his wife Kat in some fashion.

Reader review(s):

Superb book on CSS conversion, May 3, 2004
Eric Meyer has done it again. His self-titled sequel More Eric Meyer on CSS is a collection of ten conversion projects that teaches CSS by example. A practical alternative to his other new book, Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide, 2d ed., More is more inspired how-to than dry reference. Meyer says that the ultimate goal is to "lure you into using more CSS" with tempting visual effects, improved accessibility, design flexibility, and reduced page weight. I asked Eric Meyer why he wrote this book:

"There was such positive response to 'Eric Meyer on CSS' that New Riders and I decided it would be fun to create a sequel. Both books share the same project-oriented, practical philosophy, which is what people really seemed to like - that and the full color printing! The hope is that the book will help more designers get to know and love CSS, and inspire them to take the concepts presented and do something really awesome."

Eric Meyer and Jeffrey Zeldman actually make standards sexy. Yes, by converting to CSS-based techniques you make your designs more flexible, accessible, and gracefully degrade, but you also lose wait, and gain pizzazz. Chapter 6 "CSS-Driven Drop-Down Menus," where Meyer shows how to create JavaScript-free nested pull-down menus, is worth the price of the book alone.

As you progress from project 1 through 10 Meyer takes you through more difficult CSS conversions. The first two chapters show you how to use CSS layout to convert conventional table-based designs into CSS-based layouts. Tables still have their uses however, and Meyer is not above styling table-based financial reports with CSS in project 3. Chapter 4 shows how to create translucency with positioned backgrounds. While the technique does a nice job of simulating the problematic semi-opaque PNG, Meyer points out the additional graphic overhead required for this technique.

Chapters 5 through 7 are the heart of the book, styling lists to create rollover, drop-down, and tab-based menus. Some of these techniques you may have seen before, documented by foreword writer Douglas Bowman and the aforementioned Zeldman. Meyer is the first to gather them all into one place and update them for CSS 2.1 and modern browsers (most version 5+ browsers). He takes you step by step through transforming simple unordered lists into line-straddling rollover menus, lightweight CSS-only drop-down menus, and variants of Bowman's "sliding doors" technique to create rounded tabs.

Chapters 8 through 10 take it up a notch, styling a weblog, a home page with weblog, and the CSS Zen Garden site. The Zen Garden project actually uses a PNG file that works with a full alpha channel in IE6/Win as well as IE5/Mac, Mozilla, Safari, and Opera. Chapter 10 in particular will be of interest to graphic artists who convert graphics comps into XHTML and CSS.

Starting with purely structural XHTML, Meyer shows you how to gradually build up your style sheets, adding effects with each iteration. Full color screenshots, notes, warnings, and websites annotate each tutorial with alternative methods, browser workarounds, and further reading. The net effect is like having a CSS master look over your shoulder as you convert existing web sites. You can take many of these techniques directly from the book and companion site ( and put them directly into your sites, with some minor caveats.

Eric Meyer has arguably done more than anyone to help promote the use of CSS, and for that we applaud him. CSS is not just for styling text anymore.

Another superb effort, May 3, 2004
This is an excellent follow-up to "Eric Meyer on CSS." Meyer starts us in the same place as the original - turning an old-style table-based layout with font tags galore and showing how to trim the page size down using CSS for layout and formatting. The next 2 projects (Styling a Photo Collection and Styling a Financial Report) again hearken back to the original in that you are trying to complete a specific task. Along the way you are introduced to progressively more difficult concepts.

The gravy starts with Project 4 and continues through the rest of the book. Meyer leads us through some of the cutting-edge uses of CSS today and makes them work across today's popular browsers. When there is a problem rendering an effect in a particular browser, Meyer explains the pros and cons of using the technique.

This book is rated Intermediate-Advanced (same as the first book). Take that to heart. The projects in this book are harder than the corresponding project in the original. Neither teaches the basics. They make a great 1-2 punch and reading them in succession is a great idea. Make sure you follow along at the computer and do the projects - just reading them is helpful, but practice, practice, practice is absolutely necessary to really "get it".

Meyer again mentions that if you have read his previous books and don't like his writing tone, pass on this book. I find his writing style engaging. If you don't, consider getting the book anyhow - what you will learn from it should exceed any cringing you do at the style.

Brilliant author, less than brilliant teacher, September 14, 2004
This book falls way short of actually teaching you anything concrete. Sure the projects are great, and if you are good at memorizing than you'll really benefit from this book (or if you are lucky enough to actually have a project similiar to one of the 10 he puts in the book). But from how he writes the material I am having real trouble applying the material in the book to real life situations. I met all the requirements of the book (basic knowledge of css) and understand all the styles he is using, but I don't understand the concept and reasoning behind some of his actions.

For example, in the second project he floats the actual anchor tags for a set of images instead of the actual images themselves. This resulted in a diagnol lineup on the screen. Perplexed, I read on hoping for an explanation as to why he floated the anchor tags instead of the image tags and why they were in a diagnol lineup. He didn't provide an explanation for this at all.

I'm not claiming I didn't learn anything from the book. Far from it.. I enjoyed a few of the projects and tip my cap to the author for his grasp of css but you can't just throw code into a book and not explain how it works. I know it says that he isn't going to talk about theory in his books, but if you want to apply it to other scenarios you must at least provide a basic understanding of WHY the elements behave that way. Most of the cases I played around with the elements and figured it out on my own, but I didn't spend 30 bucks to figure it out on my own.

Branching Out With Cascading Style Sheets, July 27, 2004

I hope the book, More Eric Meyers on CSS, took a long time to write because it'd take me 8 years to appreciate everything he's packed into it. His designs are clever and they work. He pays attention to details. He knows browser behaviors. Saying this book is good just doesn't do it somehow. I admire his idealism and commitment to Web standards.

I depend on browsers supporting tables well. Eliminating tables from page design never occurred to me until I started reading Eric Meyer's CSS books. I use tricks like pixel shims but what the blank? I find design-arounds. Unfortunately, tables are rigid, even when tools like Adobe's ImageReady's slices disguise them well. Now that I understand table-less pages better I'll be reading more on CSS.

I've read Eric's, Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide. It's great! Be sure to keep it handy. You'll use it while reading his other books. Too bad the rules don't translate themselves into Web pages. The rules seem clear enough but using them is another matter. Eric's examples, in the first 31 pages of this book, take a table dependent page apart step by step, then reassemble it, piece by piece, using CSS's selectors and declaration blocks. By following his examples I learned how cascading style sheet rules coordinate. I'm reminded of the small programs that linux depends on. Translating CSS theory into practice is what this book is all about.

I'm branching out with CSS.

Excellent Book!, June 9, 2004
This book is a definite plus for all people who have dabbled in table-free design but weren't quite ready to dive head first. If you are not familiar with basic CSS mark up, this book is not for you. If you wish to learn CSS from the ground up- see Christopher Schmitt's book "Designing CSS Web Pages" published by New Riders as well. Anyone who uses heavy javascript in their design will also find many streamlined CSS alternatives to that clunky code. "More Eric Meyer on CSS" starts off with a lesson on how to convert an existing table layout to cascading style sheets. I like the way Eric leads through the examples, every step in the code reveals possible browser conflicts. Lucky for us, he is able to supply the right workaround to make the pages compliant. Readers will also walk though styling a photo gallery, styling a financial report, `transparency layout', and many more. My favorite lessons were CSS-Driven Drop-Down Menus, Opening the Doors to Attractive Tabs, and Designing in the Garden. I have been a fan of the csszengarden site, and I had fun reaching the Zen Garden!
Overall, this was a useful and comprehensive book. Eric Meyer has a simple way of presenting the lessons. None of the ten lessons he covers should take longer than one hour. He is obviously extremely knowledgeable in this field. His praise is well deserved. I personally plan on implementing these lessons on my personal site and those of future clients. The only flaw I found with this book was chapter 10's missing lesson file from the books website, this was alright, as a similar html file was supplied. It was definitely not enough to lower my perfect rating though.

Absolutely awesome, July 21, 2004
Eric Meyer is arguably the most well known expert on CSS, and this book demonstrates perfectly how he earned that. Easy to read, good relevant examples, and in-depth explanations of the topics at hand, this book is a wealth of important information for designers and developers looking to take their skills to the next level. Several of the book's 10 projects are those you would expect to do professionally if you work in the field. As was stated in another review, Chapters 5 - 7 are the heart of the book, although I would add the first chapter as well, since it talks about converting existing pages.

Written for someone with at least basic CSS knowledge, the book does a very credible job in bringing the reader along into the more advanced CSS ideas and principles. There is a lot more explanation than code, and I liked how the changes were provided in a controlled manner so I could see the effect each change had on the page. The exercises at the end of each chapter are a plus also, as it challenged my understanding of the material and helped me internalize what I read. This won't be the only book I need on the subject, but it will be an indispensible one.

Perfect for experienced coders, November 10, 2004
This book far surpasses any CSS book that I've used so far. Eric provides fun, easy projects that teach important concepts applicable to REAL WORLD development.

I am an advanced HTML hand-coder, but I hadn't mastered CSS fully because existing references were not intuitive and did not illustrate how to use CSS in any practical sense.

I give this book my highest recommendation.

Great Learning Tool!, February 4, 2005
I have 5 books on this subject and none of them explain how and why elements are applied as well as this book does. Besides the many useful hacks and references this book showed me why styles are applied to achieve desiered results. Each example is decribed in detail. I have been able to apply the examples to my pages with ease. If you want to learn when to use DIV and why use CLASS, em vrs px, what makes float float then get this book.

Great for learning practical applications of CSS, January 21, 2005
If you're interested in seeing how CSS can be applied to solve practical - although, in this book, not necessarily "everyday" - problems, this is the perfect book. If you're relatively new to CSS, you'll definitely need a reference/introductory text as well. But once you progress beyond the syntax and basic logic of CSS, and begin using it to style and layout real sites, More E.M. on CSS deserves a read and a spot on your bookshelf.

A must have for the CSS learner, January 28, 2005
Those who are familiar with CSS techniques are undoubtedly aware of Eric Meyer's contribution to the field. The man is a pioneer in web design and has written several volumes on CSS including the Definative Guide. But for those of you who are interested in improving your CSS skills but hate to pick up that reference book and peruse through a bunch of wordy definitions, More Eric Meyer on CSS is the book for you.

The book is geared towards hands-on, real world examples of CSS issues and the proper way to implement change. Some of the ways CSS is implemented may astound you, but all the examples are extremely useful in the day to day XHTML coding process.

The book is laid out in easy-to-read, full color chapters. The project code is displayed on an as-you-go basis with the entire code displayed at the end of each chapter. Often times, Meyer shows changes in code in order to illustrate alternate or more efficient methods, and these changes are always hightlighted for easier viewing.

CSS is definately the technology of the web future. More Eric Meyer on CSS is an invaluable book that enables you to see how CSS can resolve your design issues.

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